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Dual Pricing
« on: July 18, 2007, 07:04:49 PM »
I have started this thread to record examples/experiences of 'Dual Pricing' In Malaysia

Dual Pricing (low price for Malaysians - higher price for Foreigners) is not as common in Malaysia as it is in Thailand. [Recently in Chaing Mai I discovered the entrance fee for a 'foreigner' to a water fall area was BT400, and Bt20 for a local. Needless to say I told the guy what I thought of him and the pricing before riding off on my rent Honda 750 Super Four motorcycle....but he probably didn't understand me!]. I just hope Thaksin has been 'ripped off' 20 times over the odds for his recent purchase of Man City....but I doubt it!!

However  (back to topic) dual pricing does exist in Malaysia. Non Malaysians pay more for entry into the National Park to climb Mt Kinabalu than a local for example.
Foreigners pay more to enter FRIM (Forestry Research Institute of Malaysia), but this is a bit more fair because if you live or work in Malaysia you pay the 'local price'.

Any more example would be useful to all of us, and then we can choose to 'boycott' if we so desire.
The trouble with taking the ‘middle of the road’ position is that you get run over from both directions.

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Re: Dual Pricing
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2007, 10:00:17 PM »
Good idea for the thread. Well, Singapore sure got ripped-off in it's purchase of Shin corp, so maybe Thaksin will get it eventually - what goes around, comes around.

Here in the Sitiawan, Manjung, Lumut, Pankor area I haven't been over-charged vs locals as there's not really anything to visit.

The tourist shops on Pangkor Island seem to have an "equal opportunistic policy" as they pretty much treat every tourist the same. In Lumut I've been overcharged a couple of times but after saying, "I think you've made a mistake" the price gets back to normal.

Some traders see a foreigner and their faces light up. They think that we're dumb and that they'll make a killing. The nice thing about Malaysia is that it's all a bit too obvious. You can see it coming miles away.

I agree with you that Thailand makes a distinction between Thais and fallangs. It's the familiar, "you're not Thai" approach which is annoying but fair enough.

What about China? When I was last there I felt like a commodity. Part of the annual "crop" - plant, water, reap, and leave out to dry. My travelling companion spoke Mandarin and taught me to say, "I don't have enough money" followed by "no really, my whole family is destitute and I have big debts." I had the phonetic English for these phrases written on my hand. The touts fell apart when they heard this stuff.

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2007, 12:09:28 AM »
I was recently in Thailand and came across the dual pricing policy. There is nothing shady about it, it is just so that Thais (who are pretty poorly paid in comparison to farangs) get the opportunity to visit places of interest. My experience of this was at the night safari, an absulutely stunning place to go. My wife is Chinese and looks sort of Thai-ish so she was allowed in at the concession price, my son is married to a Thai so they got in cheap too. I think the girl who was taking the ticket money felt sorry for me so she asked how old I was. Everyone replied very old (which I resent and is a total lie). The girl then let me in free and gave me the best place on the safari bus. I am going to try that one again.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2007, 10:06:56 AM »
The problem I have with the Thai Dual Pricing System is that it is not about one price for locals and another price for non-Thais. It's about a local price for any nationality which could possibly be or look like Thai (namely Asian), and a highly inflated price for anyone with a 'white' face namely European/Westerner! I have never seen a Japanese tourist stopped and asked to pay the 'foreigner' price (someone please correct me), yet the average Jap tourist is probably better off/more wealthy that the average 'European backpacker'
In that regard I consider it a racist policy.
I can think of no UK outlet which charges Thais (or any onther nationality) - [again please correct me if I am mistaken] a highly inflated price compared with that charged to a British citizen.

What they don't realise is that in my case I simply didn't go into the waterfall area, and neither did my companion, so Bt40 was lost in revenue! However it only takes one 'gullible tourist' to pay the Bt400, and this will compensate for ten or twently people like me who on principle won't secumb to such blatant discrimination.
The trouble with taking the ‘middle of the road’ position is that you get run over from both directions.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2007, 04:50:47 PM »
I think that every country in the world has overt or covert racism however Malaysia celebrates racial diversity and multiculturalism. It's not perfect but what is?  I have always been confused about "racism" "cultural identity" "national pride" etc, where does one start and another one finish. Being a simple soul I just think  Vive le difference!

I dont think the Thais disciminate in favour of all asian races. The Japanese do not look Thai and the Thais would never think of them as such. The "looking Thai" thing is enshrined in their law. If for instance the children of a mixed marriage do not look Thai they cannot inherit thier parents estate. Crazy but true.

Sorry about the rant,

I am a celt by the way and I can trace my ancestry back to Red Olaf the Viking. One of his relatives was called "Olaus the Swarthy" who would no doubt have got access to Thai attractions at a concessionary rate  :)



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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 02:31:50 PM »
The Penang War Museum at Batu Muang charges more for non-Malaysians but I was able to get in at the Malaysian price when I told them I had MM2H visa.

MM2H also got me the Malaysian deposit (3 months as opposed to 6 months) when I registered with PenangFon on Friday.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 09:13:22 PM »
Yes I agree having the MM2H visa works in a number of different situations. such as hotels who advertise a discounted rate for 'Malaysians' & 'Singaporeans'.

However the key is "If your don't ask you certainly don't get"  ::)
The trouble with taking the ‘middle of the road’ position is that you get run over from both directions.

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