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AP's & NAP
« on: October 31, 2009, 11:02:02 PM »
hi,

Here's a couple of articles about the NAP and AP's.

AP's have been around for a long time. Normally the Malaysian press was silent on items of blatant political patronage during Mahathir's time as PM but even then the issue of AP's surfaced now and again with the long-term Minister of International Trade and Industry (Rafidah) promising this review and that inquiry. The press lightened up with Badawi. And has continued with Najib.

Here's a detailed article on the AP's, each of which are estimated to have a "street value" of RM40,000. Planning to phase out AP's by 2015 & 2020, that's getting to grips with the problem.

Saturday October 31, 2009 : Coming to grips with APs
The Approved Permit (AP) system to import cars into the country is often a contentious issue, one that even the Government seems to be having a hard time getting rid of.

Abolishing the well-entrenched system means taking on a group of wealthy bumiputra businessmen, whose strong ties to the political elite makes them formidable opponents. On the other hand, the general perception is that the AP system is riddled with abuses. And the suspicion seems to be validated by facts.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/10/31/business/5007860&sec=business


And a couple more articles on the Malaysian auto industry, and car prices. I've always been amazed when members have pointed out that it's cheaper to buy a new car in the UK than here in Malaysia. AP's, and a highly protected industry explain why.

Saturday October 31, 2009 : National Automotive Policy – still stuck in Neutral

The National Automotive Policy has been revamped to now include several new measures. But are they enough to move Malaysia’s auto industry ahead of its regional rivals? When International Trade and Industry Minister Datuk Mustapa Mohamed admitted at a press conference on Wednesday that Malaysia was behind Thailand in the auto industry, there were no gasps of disbelief nor expressions of shock.

However, there must have been a reflection of regret that Malaysia has lost much ground after it had stormed into the lead in the regional auto business when it launched the national car project in the mid-1980s. Now, we have been overtaken by a neighbouring country (Thailand - Ed) that has basically given its investors the very things that have been asked of the Malaysian government all this time.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/10/31/business/5013872&sec=business

Saturday October 31, 2009 : Who’s footing the Bill?
The Government dished out a whole lot of fresh manufacturing goodies after it reviewed the National Automotive Policy (NAP), which can be described as an attempt to improve on the flawed original. But with car prices being kept at prohibitively high levels, consumers cannot be faulted if they feel like they are the ones footing the bill to keep the industry alive.

“It was a positive NAP for market players, but not so for consumers,’’ MIDF Research analysts Zulkifli Hamzah and Wan Azhar Mustapa said in their commentary on the industry. Malaysia is set to remain among the countries with the highest numbers of new car buyers after the International Trade and Industry Ministry said on Wednesday that it would keep import duty and exercise duty structures for motor vehicle at the current rates.

Any price reduction, the Government said, would have to come from the industry.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/10/31/business/5008187&sec=business

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 10:06:36 AM »
Hi ,

The AP for importing your own car is a headache at the moment. Dont believe what it says in the MM2H information, It takes considerably longer than 10 days to get the paperwork signed off, in fact at present there are very few staff in the department dealing with this, As I am finding out to my cost. Does anyone have any ideas how I may be able to speed up the process as they are now telling me it could take 4 weeks !!!  I am extremely disappointed.



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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 11:49:01 AM »
Hi Jonno96!
In regard of getting AP for importing your car, it will take quite a while. I presume you are applying for exemption/duty free car.Here are the following steps:
1.) You need to put in your application through the Ministry of Finance (I assume you know what documents is needed here). In the last 2 months they have 4 different girls working in this department. Some of them has been transferred somewhere else. It takes 4 weeks in order to get it approve, because this office is short handed. All my apps. were notarized by Notary in the States. Guess what? They will not accept anything notarized in foreign country. So I have to get it notarized again by a Commissioner of Oaths in KL. After that they will accept it.
The 2 persons that you need to contact at the Ministry of Finance are Miss Noriza  603-88823393 or Miss Rohaya 603-88823395 either one of this can tell you when you will get it approve. Make a lot of phone calls and ask for their help. By the way the Approval Letter from the Ministry of Finance is in
Malaya. This letter practically stated the so.........and so has been granted to Import one Duty Free Car according to such and such of of the Malaysian Government. You will have one year to import that to Malaysia as it was stated and dated on the Approval Letter.

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2.) You need to make an application to the Ministry of International Trade & Industry (MITI). This is where you will get your "AP" from this Ministry. Once MITI issued you an "AP". You are free from all these headaches. You have 6 months to get your car ship to Malaysia.

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3.) To get it clear custom in Port Butterworth/Penang or Port Klang in KL.

Your best bet is to get it done through an Agency. It is very inexpensive if you know the right one.

So hanging there, you just need to hassle them (many phone calls will help.)

BEN
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 06:39:55 PM »
I scrapped (using the govt incentive scheme) my 12 year old Toyota Corolla and bought a new car 3 weeks ago as it needed some costly repair work. I suppose I cannot use mm2h to import since its less than 1 year old ? :(

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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 10:06:43 PM »
Just like to say thanks to everyone for their prompt replies.
It certainly has been an uphill struggle to sort everything out, but my main disappointment is that they tell us that it will take 10 working days when it in fact it takes so much longer.
I found out today that there are applications for the exemption of duty on imported cars going back to October !!!  I just wish that they were more open to the time schedules for these applications. Meanwhile my car sits at the docks !! (this of course will be costing me!)
Thanks again

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 12:01:53 AM »
Hi Jonno96!
Sorry to hear that your car is sitting at the docks. I felt for you.

And for those future MM2Her please remember one thing before you ship your Duty Free Car to Malaysia, make sure you have the (1) Approval Letter from Ministry of Finance, (2) Approval Letter from MITI (Ministry of International Trade & Industry) "AP" Approved Permit before you start shipping your car out to Malaysia.

Jonno, keep calling them every 2 days in hope that they can speed up your approval letter. Good Luck!

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 09:59:28 AM »
We all learn from our mistakes, I realise that things take longer to get processed here, Once bitten, twice shy.
But at least I got the visa organised as soon as I arrived in KL, which meant I could then apply for the car tax exemption, next day.

Thanks again for all your comments.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 08:12:57 PM »
Just like to say thanks to everyone for their prompt replies.
It certainly has been an uphill struggle to sort everything out, but my main disappointment is that they tell us that it will take 10 working days when it in fact it takes so much longer.
I found out today that there are applications for the exemption of duty on imported cars going back to October !!!  I just wish that they were more open to the time schedules for these applications. Meanwhile my car sits at the docks !! (this of course will be costing me!)
Thanks again
There are 2 stages involved. I have just got the AP for my friend for his high performance car. He actually shipped his car from Europe on the 7th January even before he applied for permission from our Ministry of Finance. The car took exactly 24 days to arrive at The Port of Singapore thereafter the local shipping agent use a smaller vessel to ship it to Port Kelang and that took exactly 7 days. And he has 7 days of port storage free of charge which is until 14th February to clear out his car.  After this day is the long Chinese New year holidays.

When he approached me for help, I didn't know that he has launched the missile. So I have to work extra hard and extra polite with the Ministry people.  My problem was compounded when he did not bring along the car documents that are required

For Stage 1 - Submission to Ministry of Finance (MOF) to get approval to import in a personal car

1. Fill up the MM2H/07 form which can be downloaded from www.mm2h.gov.my.  In this form, they require you to provide the chassis and the engine number.  Make no mistake on this or else the custom can refuse to clear your car.

2. A certified copy of the MM2H approval letter from the Immigration Dept of Malaysia that you are a MM2H participant.

3. A certified copy of the International passport of the page that contains your personal particulars and also the multiple entry visa (MM2H Visa)

4. The ownership certificate that showed you as the owner and the DATE is very IMPORTANT. You must be the registered owner before you got your MM2H approval. I know in certain countries, this can be manipulated to your favour.  Since the authorities want this document to ascertain that the car you are bringing in is not a stolen car,  I told my friend to get his embassy here to certify the photocopied document.  Reason: if the embassy is certifying their own country legal document, who are we to dispute them? The tricks work beautifully especially when you have lack of other document.

Note that all document which is not in English or Bahasa Malaysia needs translation done in either English or Bahasa Malaysia.  I strongly suggest that you make use of the Malaysia Translators Association which all our government dept recognise. The Association actually networks all its members and assign them with work for which the translator is proficient with. The translators have all gone through a  training where their work output comply with the strict  government's requirement. They need 3-5 days lead time.

I submitted the application to the Ministry of Finance on 19th January and I collected the approval on 27th January which is 7 working days.  Since my friend is importing his high performance, the MOF checks with MM2H on his financial background. Lucky he has more than enough money in the bank to show. 

For Stage 2 - Submission to Ministry of Trade and Industry (MITI) to apply for the Approved Permit (AP) which is required to import a car

There is no form to fill up but a checklist is provided. A simple cover letter would be good. Ask them to stamp the date they received your application on your second copy for follow up. Most of the document to be submitted are the same as in Stage 1.

1) A certified copy of the MM2H approval letter from the Immigration Dept of Malaysia that you are a MM2H participant.

2) A certified copy of the International passport of the page that contains your personal particulars and also the multiple entry visa (MM2H Visa)

3) A certified copy of the Letter from the Ministry of Finance from Stage 1 for your import duty and sales tax exemption. Bring the ORIGINAL along

4) A certified copy of the motorcar registration card/certificate your as the owner

5) A certifed copy of your Driving licence. In the form it is stated International Driving Licence. My friend has none but was able to produce his country driving licence which they also accepted.  I do not understand why they need this document

6) The insurance policy that has your name as the insured party. The authorities want this document to ascertain that the car you are bringing in is not a stolen car.

7) The sales invoice.  I also don't understand why they need the Invoice for since you are exempted from paying any duty or sales tax.   In my friend case, he has none and so I have to hook up a story that his ex wife gave the car to him as a gift!!

8) The JK 69 Custom declaration form which can be bought for RM 1.50 from the Business Centre at the Government Office Complex where the Ministry of Trade and Industry is. Very IMPORTANT : this custom declaration form must be filled up using a TYPEWRITER.  I used the Government Cooperative Office ( two blocks from MITI) which provided this service for a fee of RM 10 and I just waited 15 minutes to get it done.

I submitted his application on 2nd February and collected his Approved Permit (AP) yesterday which is 9th February which is only 5 working days!!!

I advised him to appoint a forward agent and the car was cleared from customs without any problem a day later.   He did not pay a single sen for storage and he got his car two days after he got his AP but he is taking a risk. The point here I want to stress is that make sure you comply. If there is any delay, most probably it is due to  lack of information or incomplete submission. Always follow up with phone calls and visits to  give a personal touch. They will not call you even when they ask for your contact number.



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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 11:58:12 PM »
YP, this is excellent stuff. Thank you for a very clear summary of the necessary steps.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 03:16:48 AM »
JPChoon - Wonderful and Well Done!
For future MM2H applicants if you need to import your car for the Duty Free process follow "JPChoon" instructions and you will  in good shape. But it is always better to have your paper works in order first before you ship your car (to be on the safe side).
Good work JP!

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 02:37:39 PM »
Hi,

Can anyone confirm the process please for importing a second car and/or motorbike neither of which would be 'duty free'.

Jac