Chopping & Changing

[Gin]

Hi Guys

Why this Msian Government is flip flops all the time. I got an email  yesterday from Joy-Stay.com, giving me the greenlight to go ahead with the application with the condition that me and my husband are still working in the US. The paystubs will show more than RM10,000/month. What happen if Ihave the MM2H VISA and do not have the RM10,000 per month income by then?

What I dont understand is every few months, there is new ruling. We can never keep up with the changes.

Gin

[jr6020]

Gin, Just keep copies of all contacts with Joy and any other officials.  When you show up to apply for the Visa you can just whip out those emails if any Immigration official tries to tell you something different (and this will probably occur).  They often will back down when given evidence that supports your understanding of things..Jim, USA

[scott]

hi,

The idea that mm2h rules keep changing is wrong. They don't.

It's just that folks new to the scheme need time to read up, evaluate, and see where they are. Applying for mm2h is no more difficult than applying for a credit card, ok, you'll need more documents, and certified copies, but it can hardly be called hard.

It's a matter of compiling readily available information, and it's a very positive experience. If you meet the clearly outlined financial criteria you're guaranteed success as the MM2H folk don't want you to fail. Why would they?

In fact, there haven't been any significant changes since 1st June 2007 when agents became mandatory, and then on the 9th. January 2009 the mandatory bit was removed. And in between these dates? Well, there's been the RM1 million property clause, and that's about it.

So far, the items about working 20 hours per week, proposals to increase the FD and remove the RM10,000 monthly support income, and others, are just hearsay. Or, email-say.

Anyone can keep up with any changes, and current acceptable practice, by reading the posts on this site and posting questions if they're not sure.

Part of the argument, made by agents, for making agents mandatory was the inability of applicants to cope with changes. I never subscribed to this phoney argument then, and I don't now.

I applied by myself and I'm no Einstein, but I can read and write and do simple addition. QED.

The requirements to submit the mm2h application are very clear. The amount of money that needs to be show is also very clear. Put an application in today and why should it go wrong? Today's requirements are what they were last week, and last year. If anything changes next week, it'll be for next week's applications.

When in face-to-face situations, as with most bureaucracies, applicants need to accept that individual officers (at the counter) and/or senior officers (setting practice) may have their own way of interpreting a regulation. Take enough of everything to make your point. Or go the 3-visit way as posted earlier.

Hi, Gin,

I got an email  yesterday from Joy-Stay.com, giving me the greenlight to go ahead with the application with the condition that me and my husband are still working in the US.

Reads like you should just go ahead.

regards, Scott

[scott]

hi,

Hi Guys

What happen if I have the MM2H VISA and do not have the RM10,000 per month income by then?

So far the folks at MM2H have confirmed that the conditions that applied at the application are those that will apply at any renewal.

If, at renewal time, you were unable to meet any of the previous conditions I imagine that you would have to apply for a waiver. If you are worried on this maybe an email to MoTour will answer the question, and please post here so that we all know. The more emails to MoTour with replies posted here then the better for all of us.

However, if you are applying using the FD Option then requirements at renewal are to show the FD only (plus the medical, letter of intent) and not proof of income. This one we know.


regards, Scott