Certifying documents for the MMH2

[georgeshooter]

I am going to use a Commissioner of oath instead of a notary. 4 years ago, I had to travel some distance and the notary charged me GBP100 for certifying our passport and purchase agreement when we bought our property. Will update when I know how much commissioner of oath charges is

[Davita]

This is a copy/paste of an e-mail I received today from my agent, which I posted on another thread:-

My agent just now sent me the following e-mail:-

"We write to inform you that we received confirmation from the Ministry of Tourism that you may submit quality colour print outs of your bank statements from the internet . Kindly make sure that they are clear colour print outs and do not fade. The e-bank statements do not need to be certified."

Maybe the M of T keep an Eye on this forum...You think?

David

[sag]

Back in the UK we banked with a few 'online only' banks.

When we lodged our MM2H application (December 2007) we submitted downloaded & printed copies of our relevant bank statements.  These were accepted without any further 'validations'.

[Jonno96]

Hi All,
Is me again Jon. Regarding the certifying of documents! could I use the Malaysia Commisioner for Oath since I will be there on 23rd Aug onward? Do I have to certifying all the documents that I submit? (included bank statement,passport,pay slip and etc)

Do I have to fill in the Visit Pass Application Form(IM.12)? or should I wait for the approval letter from MM2H department?

Once again, many thanks and have a nice day.
Jon

[Davita]

The Malaysian Consulate can certify all copies of documents that you submit by first seeing the originals.
Originals do NOT need to be certified...only copies. In my case such things like bank statements etc, I copied, but I kept the copy and submitted the Original without certification. This reduces the cost.

I understand the Visit pass is only required for those passport holders from countries requiring them. Not all countries are included...better check where your passport was issued to see if it is a requirement.

[Jonno96]

Hi Davita,
Thank you very much for the information. I will get all the original copy as soon as possible. However, just have another problem to get the Letter of Conduct in UK. Called to the help line. Met Police and local police station in UK, both are given me different answer, both given me the different form to fill in!!! Their said,it will taking 40 day to reply. But I am leaving on 22th Aug to Malaysia. Hopefully, I can get it on time. 
Once again, many thanks.
Jon

[scott]

hi,

As Davita suggest, a Malaysian Consulate is a very good place to get your stuff certified. They should also be able to help with any questions that you may have.

If you don't have time to get copies certified by the Malaysian Consulate, you can get them done here in Malaysia when you arrive. Any solicitor/notary public can do it.

Your application consists of a variety of items. Check out the list on this site, or go to www.mm2h.gov.my and look under "How to Apply."

Do I have to fill in the Visit Pass Application Form(IM.12)? or should I wait for the approval letter from MM2H department?

Sorry, I don't understand what you're getting at here Jon.

The 1st part of the application currently consists of 14 items.

Item 4 is :
4.   Three (3) copies of IM.12 Form (Social Visit Pass );
Note : Applicant and all dependants have to complete the Form individually.

So you have to complete Form IM.12 as part of this bit of the application.

When you receive a Letter of Approval then the 2nd part is when you need to complete a few more items (medical by doctor, medical insurance, fixed deposit etc.) which are submitted when you go to get the mm2h visa stamped in your passport.

Is this what you mean?   

[Davita]

Sorry...i thought your reference to "Visit Application Form IM12' was to the "Calling Visa" some people require.

You clearly are referring to the normal application that covers all, and, as Scott says, it needs to be filled out and sent with all the other documents.

David

[expatriot]

I have original documents describing USA Certifiate Of Deposit Information printed on USA bank letterhead... I am also now in Vietnam next stop MM2H post application... Please advise how to notarize photo copy options of the original documents? Do it in Vietnam paid attorney? Do it in Malaysia paid Notary? Try Malaysia MM2H legal department office? Return to USA and get a USA
notary stamp?...

Another major question is details of what is proof of health insurance coverage? Insurance premiums cover a very wide range of options.. to simplify MM2H application the basic minimum health coverage details is missing.. For example credit cards like American Express already have
health insurance coverage but limited amount for each health or accident occurrence..

I am worried remarked "it takes three times to get the application in work approved" i wish to get better odds at having the application approved the first time prepared with a Vietnam Notary or Malaysian consulate in Saigon or ?...         
     

[papaya]

Why not make a copy of your bank deposit certificate (for yourself) and take the Original to MM2H?  Originals don't need to be notarized.  Or is there a Malaysian Embassy or Consulate in Vietnam?  They can notarize I believe.  Maybe someone else can confirm.

To improve your odds.  If you use Joy-Stay (we did), once they've looked at your documentation and you've paid their fee, they guarantee Approval or money back.  Seems like good odds.

[scott]

hi,

If I read you correctly you are now in Vietnam ready to post the application. (?)

So, you'll need to get the copies signed by a notary in Vietnam. You could also go to the Malaysian embassy/consulate and see if they can help. Documents can be certified by an embassy/consular official.

For health insurance you need a certified copy of the insurance premium and cover note. But, you only need the health insurance after you've received conditional approval so you don't need it when you send off the application documents.

There is no stated minimum coverage. You can get what you need, or what you can afford. As long as you've got some insurance for Malaysia.

The comment about "3 times" is tongue-in-the-cheek. It's a bit of friendly joking around. Check the requirements carefully, complete them, and 1st time shouldn't be a problem. Many members on this site have a 1st time success.

[sananton]

Hi expatriot.
In the event you are running out of time, as long as you have your Original CD Certificate/Bank Statement you can always get it certified in KL/Malaysia through Commissioner of Oaths. Joy-Stay will help you and have someone do it for you.
As papaya mentioned MM2H might accept your copy of the Financial Statement as long as you can show them your Original Statement (CD Certificate).
As for Health Insurance, if a person is over 62 most insurance co. decline to offer coverage. Therefore, if they decline coverage for you, you are exempted. That's what happened to us last June 2009. We got exemption for not having health insurance. Remember only for those over 60's. You can check it out with Joy-Stay they will work it out for you.

Good Luck! I am sure it will go smoothly.

Ben

[scott]

hi, sananton,

When you were exempted for health insurance did you need to get a letter of refusal from an insurance company?

[expatriot]

I thank you all who can share papers to be certified for MM2H qualifying
 information... information to avoid MM2H application rejection for reason of  "self notarized" "under insured" disclosures...

MM2H describes general basic qualifications, however does not instruct or explain acceptable delivery verification of formats, for the verification of application financial and  medical status. 

I read rejections as a warning..that people who declare "self notarized financial statements" and improvise computer generated, word processing  statements may  be unqualified at annual renewal reviews.. or never challenged?

I seek application accepted on arrival therefore  prepare according to officialy verified, no problem, legal instructions.. Do not want merry go around chasing resolutions created by  unclear entry verification of documents,,,

The following questions pertain to 50+ / 63+ years old MM2H applications 

1) Is interest income from USA banking Certificate Deposit accepted as liquid? I argue liquid if or when ordered closed...

2) Is this same Certificate Deposit earning RM120.000 interest annually accepted as annual income monthly described worded qualification? 

3) How to deliver this bank account disclosure stated on bank letter received 5 years ago?  photo copy? what information on photo copy verification  is instructed? Need available options instructions? Who verify letter from  bank to proceed with application...Do not want confusion at time of arrival..

4) What sum amount?  medical insurance policy coverage? Cover what?, limits? 62+ year old  deductibles? premiums? that satisfy MM2H?
     
Concerned at arrival, foreigner is asked to purchase medical age 63. Yes
most foreign insurance business refuse older foreigner reasonable priced medical insurance coverage...

Who is the officer at MM2H that may or may not waive old age insurance?

After MM2H 1 year renewal another officer may ask to leave MM2H VISA program? Unless a policy is declared or amended as irrevocable bylaws to previous medical insurance applications

MM2H people involved with legalized structure of the business end of foreigner MM2H applications plese consider the following:

It would be simple option, declare self insured. self notarized, and have applicant post requested financial bond MM2H "assignment"... Offer one price interest earning "assignment" to cover all these personal documents that combine individual translations for MM2H financial and medical insurance qualifications...

If applicant decides 11 years, 19 years to depart Malaysia, the "assignment" automatically void.. It can be this simple MM2H available option combining medical and financial issues.  Prices are now higher as rush is over perhaps
making the doors wider?

[sananton]

Yes, you do have to show MM2H your rejection Health applications. My agent took care of it.

Ben