Self renewal of 5yr Visa experience-Originally qualified on UK Company Pension

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I thought I would post my exact experience here for the benefit of others who may undergo this in the future.

Firstly we collated all the required supporting documents namely:-

1.   Passports
2.   Photocopy of passports
3.   Forms IM55 (2 copes for each person with a passport sized photo attached to each)
4.   Copy of Health Insurance payment (for each person)
5.   Current proof of monthly offshore income **(see below in blue)
6.   Payment of RM90 per year for Social Visit Pass/Person (on approval).

We arrived at level 3 of the Putrajaya Immigresen Centre, and went to level 3, and proceeded straight to window 9. A lady was seated there.  She advised we should get a number ticket from counter 18. So we got number 6012, and all the numbers on the electronic boards were indicating 2000+, so we went back to the lady with the number, and she said 'take a seat and wait for your number to be called'. We asked  'Are there many people ahead of us?'. She replied 'No, you are next, please take a seat!'
After about 10 minutes our number was called, but for desk 10. We submitted all our documents, and had a copy of our Property Sales & Purchase Agreement as back up documentation, just in case it was required

However it was all to be a wasted journey.

When he (yes it was a very pleasant gentleman seated at desk no 10,)  looked through the 15 months of Bank Statements showing a regular montly income in Sterling which is well in excess of the minimum amount, he stated that it was unaceptabe as it was not clear where the income was derived from.

**So to avoid the same mistake, if you qualified on Pension Income, make sure you bring the most recent letter from your pension provider which has some relevant information regarding your current pension such as their name and address and your name and address etc on the document (be it informing you of a review increase or some other such change). Luckily I have such in my file at home. So I will take that with me when I return and in addition I will take my P60 Tax Year End Certificate also, which has my Pension Provider details & my own address in Malaysia on the same document.

I stated to the gentleman, that he had a letter from my Pension Provider on file from my 1st application which was still valid, but he was keen to see something more recent in case things had changed.

Realising that we would get no further at this point we said 'Thank You' and left the building.

However I now believe that indeed you can renew on the same basis on which your were first accepted, despite the number of subsequent rule changes. In my case that is 'on a Company Pension' without having to place RM60,000 on deposit for the life of your stay under MM2H in Malaysia.

More later (after visit 2).

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We returned to Immigresen yesterday with a complete set of documents at around 1500hrs. We collected our number at counter 18 which was 6016. Does that mean that only 4 MM2h applicants visited Immigration since we were there on Tuesday, when we received number 6012??
We then went to Counter 9 / 10, but no one was in attendance. We waited patiently for 45 minutes, and then called a clerk to see if we were likely to be attended to any time soon. Five minutes later the very pleasant gentleman who we met on Tuesday appeared and claimed that he was alone in 'manning' the MM2H counters that day. He checked our documents, and thankfully all appeared to be in order, so he suggested that we call in 7 working days and all should be done.
We thanked him and left.

More in seven or eight days time!!!!

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Today (after calling to confirm that our Visa renewal application had been completed), we returned to Putrajaya with our passports, (they were not retaind by Immigration on our last trip).

We received the letter confirming that our application was successful, and it stated 'Fixed Deposit not required' which I was delighted about as it meant that indeed we did renew on exactly the same grounds on which our application was successful first time round.

Interestingly we paid RM1,800 for the full 5 years. However one of our children's passports expires in Jan 2013, and as we know we will need to replace the passport 6 months before that. Once we get the new passport in Mid 2012, we will then need to get a 'top-up visa for the extra 1 year, and we will have to pay another RM90 for that year. So in effect you are paying twice for the 5th year....but what the hell.
Basically it will be the same for our second kid as his passport expires just shortly after that.

Hope this is useful for those renewing. Good luck.

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Congratulations with another 5 years in paradise and it only took you 3 rounds.
Interesting to know they just dug up the old rules and DIY still applies.

I guess when I have to renew I’ll encounter other problems. My approval letter states I cannot withdraw the FD, but I submitted only company income statements. Maybe it was on  Friday or they could not read it because it was in Dutch.

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Hope this is useful for those renewing. Good luck.

... We now wait for equally helpful information from those who will be renewing in 10 years(like myself)  

Best wishes, and thank you. 

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hi, fcs,

Well done. Good to know that the rules under which an application was made are the ones that apply at renewal. MoTour said that this would be the case and now it's confirmed.

regards, Scott