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Income tax for MM2H residents
« on: June 09, 2008, 09:19:35 AM »
Does anyone have experience of submitting a Malaysian income tax return?

Even with MM2H it would appear that if you are 'resident' in Malaysia, you are liable for income tax on any income you derive from Malaysia - or as best I can determine from my enquiries.

So for example the interest earned on bank savings/deposits lodged in Malaysia are liable to tax. 

We have a number of FDs here with our bank and all of them are being paid on a gross basis but all are , on the banks recommendation, at a figure of 90,000RM or less.  But in an article in The Star it says that if the bank stops a withholding tax of 5% that is deemed to be a final tax and need not be included on your tax return.........

What are the experiences of others?

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 12:27:19 PM »
My2Homers are subject to the same taxation laws as all other Malaysian residents, citizens or otherwise i.e. they are liable to be taxed on ALL "earned" income sourced in Malaysia e.g. employment wages, rental income, director's fees, dividend from equities (shares).

Earned income, by definition, does NOT include real estate property gains nor interest earned on bank deposits of less than RM100,000. For some reason that I cannot fathom, the taxation authorities appear to allow residents to bypass this ruling by the simple expediency of splitting their deposits into sums of less than RM100k, hence the advice you received about keeping your FD at <Rm100k. If any deposit exceeds Rm100k, the bank is required to withhold 5% of the interest earned and the recipient appears to have no further tax liability. The logic for the 5% rate escapes me but that is the advice given by taxation advisors.

As for share dividends, most of it is taxed at source at the corporate rate of 26%. This leads to a common situation where  residents with minimal or zero tax liability (stay-home mums, pensioners, My2Homers) are allowed to reclaim the tax withheld on their dividend income. This entails having to register for a tax file number at your local tax office and submitting annual tax returns thereafter plus the usual long delays in getting a tax refund. As everything is done in Bahasa, many people who are eligible for such tax refunds do not bother about it.

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 12:28:56 PM »
Magalink has basically covered this.

I just copied this from the motour site:-  http://www.mm2h.gov.my/faq6.php

Tax
Participants are bound by the policies, systems and regulations of taxes of this country and they do not have exemption qualifications as granted to Diplomatic Missions in Malaysia.
INCOME TAX 
 
Q What kind of taxes are the participants of this programme normally subjected to?
 
A Income tax is imposed on income earned from investments in local companies and local share market. Please refer to www.hasilnet.org.my for more details on the tax structure.

Q Is the interest for their fixed deposit taxable? Some say it is taxable, other it is not taxable. If the deposit amount exceeds RM100, 000.00 OR if the deposit period is one year. What is the exact regulation?
 
A Interest earned by an individual from fixed deposit account is exempted in the following situations:-
i. Period exceeding twelve months or more – any amount of interest.
ii. Period not exceeding twelve months – interest on fixed deposit
account of up to a maximum of RM100,000.00. 

Q Is income remitted from abroad taxable?
 
A Before year of assessment 2004 income remitted from abroad to Malaysia (apart from pension) is subject to tax. However, from year of assessment 2004 all income remitted from abroad is not subject to tax.

Q Does the participant have to submit any personal tax declaration to the Income Tax Department of Malaysia, like Malaysians have to?
 
A Yes.

Q If the participants have to submit income tax return to the Income Tax department, are they entitled to any exemptions under the programme?
 
A They will only be taxed on the income earned in Malaysia after taking into account the personal tax allowances. The income will be taxed according to a progressive tax rate structure.

Q I am a German in which my country has a `double taxation agreement’ with Malaysia. I have an early pension and if I stay in Malaysia for at least 184 days, my pension scheme will not be taxed by the German Government and will also not be taxed by the Malaysia government. Is this true?
 
A Under this Programme, pension remitted to Malaysia is exempted from tax.

 
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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 11:39:32 AM »
Q;  I have Various fixed deposit investments, like most expat, my Q is, will i be liable for Tax on the interest that i earn on FD RM100.000  as i have not had it transfered Yearlyto my current a/c, Hence it is grown above the FD figure.
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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2008, 11:07:11 PM »
hi,

You won't pay tax if the term deposit is 1 year or above on an amount of more than RM100,000. If you're worried take the interest out and spend it (as I do). Or open a short term (1 or 3 month) deposit account.

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents - foreign currency deposits
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 06:13:23 PM »
Hypothetical scenario, but what if you took out a Fixed Deposit in a foreign currency (say Aussie dollar or NZ Dollar) in Malaysia (so onshore), the deposit being an investment additional to the MM2H Fixed Deposit - do the same tax rules apply?  Would they be tax exempt if the deposit was less than equivalent  RM 100K?

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 10:57:35 PM »
hi,

Off-hand I wouldn't know, but if you're not registered for tax then it would be up to the bank to deduct and you could clear it with them. If the bank's not bothered ....   ::)

Also, I've always thought that it was the amount of the FD (above or below RM100,000) rather than the currency or the number of FD.

Maybe other members have accurate info?

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 12:08:28 AM »
A few years ago, when opening a foreign currency account in KL, I was advised to keep each term deposit below the equivalent value of MYR 100k, which I did until one occasion when the accumulated interest plus unexpected forex movements caused one term deposit to break that barrier.

Consequently, I noticed a small amount of withholding tax was subtracted from the interest paid at each term maturity of that FD. This was quickly corrected by splitting that particular term deposit into two. No further action was necessary according to my tax accountant as the banks are responsible for implementing the withholding tax wherever it is applicable. I assume the same rules apply to the many wealthy Malaysians who hold millions in their bank accounts, some of it in foreign currency accounts.

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 11:58:36 AM »
I think that answers the question then, Megalink - thanks. 

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2010, 03:50:29 AM »
This is a promising thread that got narrowed down to taxation of interest on deposits, rather than the wider question of income tax liability of MM2H members, posed in the first post, which may well deserve a place under Living in Malaysia on the Home page. (A search for "tax" gives numerous scattered posts addressing tax issues, with a lot of useful information.)

In any event, now that the hour approaches I spent a day looking at the tax consequences of the MM2H status, and am posting my take-aways (mainly to remind myself, but also for correction, where necessary, by more informed members).

1. Foreign income is not liable to tax in Malaysia

At the end of the day, probably the only fact worth knowing is that under the Income Tax Act, 1967, the scope of income tax in Malaysia is restricted to income "[1] accruing in or derived from Malaysia or [2] received in Malaysia from outside Malaysia". Moreover for some years the scope has been narrowed to only the first of these two items; the latest position results from the 2004 Budget, in which the exemption given until then to income remitted into Malaysia by tax non-residents was widened to exempt all foreign source income remitted to Malaysia (other than by a banking, insurance, or sea and air transport, company).

Consequently, today, MM2H members are liable to tax only on income "accruing in or derived from" Malaysia. The consequent exclusion of foreign income and remittances should take care of most of our tax concerns; what remains (rest of this post) is relevant only to those who envisage non-negligible Malaysian source income (i.e. income that either arises in Malaysia, or is paid in Malaysia, or both).

2. The rates at which Malaysian source income is taxed depends on residence status

In general, non-residents are taxed at (higher) flat rates and are not allowed any personal "deductions, relief, or rebate" while tax residents are taxed at (lower) graduated rates on taxable income after deductions.

Resident or non-resident status for tax purposes has nothing to do with citizenship, or immigration status (or visa), but is determined solely with reference to the history of physical presence in Malaysia (according to rules that seem more complicated than consequential, due to exemptions, but I may be wrong). Residence (of individuals) is defined under Section 7 of the Income Tax Act, 1967. The text of the Act is definitive, but not entirely clear; nor are several summaries available at official and unofficial websites (see links below). As I read it, it seems that after you get your MM2H visa, you remain a tax non-resident as long as you stay in Malaysia for less than 90 days every calendar year. However, you become a tax resident (for a specific year) if you are in any 1 of the following 4 situations:

1. The first time you stay in Malaysia for 182 days or more during a calendar year, you become a tax resident for that year. [Section 7(1)(a).]

2. Once a tax resident for 3 years, you will be tax resident for the 4th year (even if you aren't in Malaysia even for 1 day in that year), if you become tax resident in the 5th year. [Section 7(1)(d).]

3. Also, if in any 3 of 4 years in a row you were either a tax resident, or were in Malaysia for 90 days or more, then you are a tax resident in the 5th year. [Section 7(1)(c).]

4. Finally, for the most complicated criterion, you are a tax resident even if you are in Malaysia for only 1 day ("less than 182 days") in a year, but this 1 day can be "linked by or to" a period of 182 or more consecutive days of stay in Malaysia in the preceding or following year, respectively. In this, temporary absence from Malaysia -- related to service or professional activities, to illness of the taxpayer or his immediate family member, or social visits of less than 14 days -- shall be counted as part of the 182 or more consecutive days. [Section 7(1)(b).]

CAUTION: The language of the Act is definitive; my interpretations and paraphrases that seek to simplify could well be wrong. For other paraphrases, see: Tax Booklet 2009/2010 [pdf] [Page 2]; Taxation of Foreign Nationals: Basic Principles; MyMM2h Tax Page; among others.

3. The following income, among others, is exempt from tax:

3.1 Interest Income

1. Interest income accruing to any person in respect of:
- any savings certificate issued by the government.
- Islamic securities originating from Malaysia, other than convertible loan stock issued in any currency other than Ringgit and approved by Securities Commission, or effective from Assessment Year 2010, by the Labuan Offshore FSA.

2. Interest (or discount) accruing to any individual from:
- bonds or securities issued or guaranteed by the government.
- debentures or Islamic Securities, other than convertible loan stock, approved by the Securities Commission.
- Bon Simpanan Malaysia issued by the Central Bank of Malaysia.

3. Interest (or bonus) accruing to a resident individual from:
- deposits in all institutions approved to take deposits.
- Merdeka bonds issued by the Central Bank of Malaysia.

4. Interest income derived by non-resident persons:
- from a bank or finance company licensed under the Banking and Financial Institutions Act, BAFIA, or the Islamic Banking Act of 1983, or any other institution approved by the Minister.

Note: Earlier, the interest exemptions on deposits were linked to value (under RM100,000), term (over 12 months), etc.; this no longer seems to be the case. Since banks withhold the tax, as pointed out by Megalink, the position should be readily verifiable by them.

3.2 Dividends

1. Income of an approved unit trust where not less than 90% of its investment is in Government securities and the remainder is in commercial papers.

2. Dividends received by resident individuals from an approved unit trust where not less than 90% of its investment is in Government securities and the remainder is in commercial papers.

3. Dividends paid, credited or distributed by Cooperative Societies to their members.

There are numerous other exemptions but this already long post does not aim to be comprehensive, by a long shot.

4. Any individual who earns a Malaysian source income of RM 25,501 or more in any calendar year must register with the income tax authorities.

The Incentives/Tax page at the official MM2H website, links to a document, Informing Inland Revenue Board (IRB) on Income Earned in Malaysia [pdf] that provides a good summary of the tax liability of MM2H participants, and states that:
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If you are in receipt of income [derived from Malaysia], you must notify your chargeability to tax to the nearest tax office and request for the tax return form.

This probably needs to be qualified by the information on the taxation of Individuals page at the official Inland Revenue Board site:
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An individual who earns an annual income of RM25,501 (after Employees Provident Fund, EPF, deduction) has to register (at the nearest IRBM branch, or via e-Daftar) and get an Income Tax reference number.

5. Obviously, there is much more that could be added to this topic--capital gains on sale of shares, real estate, double taxation, etc.--but this is as far as I got as a first shot!

I am posting this mostly as an aid to memory but hope that others may find it useful, especially to correct any errors, to comment, and to add to this topic.

ONLINE RESOURCES
The Incentives/Tax page at the official MM2H website
Penang State Tourism Official Website (12 March 2009)
PWC eTax Library | Download their 2009/2010 Malaysian Tax and Business Booklet [pdf] [My main source for this post]
Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia [IRBM]
IRBM Public Rulings

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 09:14:05 AM »
I think you'll find that there is no tax on capital gains from sales of shares or real estate in Malaysia.

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 12:06:48 PM »
Hi M,

I wasn't able to find anything on shares, but there is the real property gains tax (RPGT), a form of capital gains tax on disposal of real property--defined as: (i) any land situated in Malaysia, and any interest, option, or other right, in or over such land; or (ii) shares in a real property company (RPC). A RPC is a controlled company holding over 75% of its tangible assets in land, or in shares of another RPC.

RPGT is chargeable to gains on disposal of real property (or shares of RPC) by any (resident or non-resident) person, although disposals between 1 April 2007 and 31 December 2009 are exempt. In the 2010 Budget, it was proposed that with effect from 1 January 2010, (i) RPGT be charged at 5%, and (ii) buyers must withhold 2% of the acquisition price, and remit it within 60 days of disposal to the Internal Revenue Board.

All this is from the PWC Tax Booklet 2009/2010 [pdf]. I did not find whether this budget proposal passed or not; but if what you say is true, it probably didn't and the period of exemption was extended into 2010.

Yet, while not definitive on taxation, the MM2H website does say:
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Profit made on the sale of property is 5% (Real Property Gains Tax) [sic.].
So the position isn't entirely clear to me.

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 01:07:03 PM »
hi,

Captial Gains Tax (RPGT) was exempted by the Abdullah administration on 1st April 2007. The tax was not scrapped, merely exempted from implementation.

Najib withdrew the exemption in the last Budget Malaysia 2011 (October 2009), and initially changed the tax rate to 5% in perpetuity. There was a lot of grief over this and the rate was "brought into line with public concerns" at 5% on gains for sale within the first 5 years.

See Reply #22 : Budget Malaysia 2011

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 09:58:18 AM »
I visited Hasil a couple of years ago to see if I needed to register.
Since I didn't have any income in Malaysia other than interest on the FD - and a bit of interest on a savings account - I was informed that it wasn't necessary.
Now I would like to know if it is possible for me to register anyway. i.e. is it possible to generate some kind of interest income which is taxable, therefore necessitating registration.
My reason for wanting to register is that in a couple of years I will be eligible for a government pension from my home country. This particular pension has is subject to a  "means test". The cut-off is (I think) about $60,000 per annum in other income.
I am perhaps the poorest mm2h member - living very simply on savings for the past few years - and will have nowhere near that income. The difficulty is in documenting some sort of income. So it might be better to be registered with Hasil. Even though it would be for a ridiculously small amount of tax; it would still provide some paper profile.
Any thoughts on the feasibility/advisability of this ...?

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Re: Income tax for MM2H residents
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 07:54:18 PM »
Bazz... see our post on thread http://www.my2home.info/index.php/topic,1053.0/topicseen.html
I managed to register at my local Hasil even though I had no job or local income. If you decide to, try to explain to them you may have income in the near future and want to register now. Good luck, no red-tape pain, no gain!

 

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